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Post by Isabella Jillian Avadore on Nov 17, 2011 0:09:30 GMT -7
 There's a normie who knows. Erika Martens. She approached me after soccer practice today and seemed to be trying to figure out who I was. I probed like I was recruiting, and it didn't take long before she spilled (that, and I seem to have an intimidation attribute? I feel awful over that!) that basically...yeah. She knows full well we're reborn and we're from the history textbooks, and yes, she believes it too.
I got out some of how she worked it out - basically she was placing a paper trail from the wax museum up until now with the Wizard and Halloween, whereupon she overheard a recruitment going down, and, well, that would make that clear. As far as to the recruitment in question, it was in the amusement park. Out of the way, I'm sure, but I suppose she was in the correct place for her wishes, at the correct time. Bad coincidence, I would call, over bad recruiting.
That being said, she knows who some (but not all) of us are.
Oliver - Orville
Talia - Bonnie
Carter - Clyde
and weirdly enough, Raven - Ripper, though that could work for us.
What I did then was I told her, if she spills, she's basically dead, and she full well realizes this. Erika doesn't currently have any anti-rsor ties, and I recommend that we keep it that way.
That being said, we're going to have to do something about her. She was Captain Obvious when speaking to me, so I think we're going to have to teach her codes and things. After all, we can't erase memories, so we're going to have to work with hers, and while we keep her out of rsor, we can't drive her into the anti-rsor's hands, either.
I'm going to talk to her again shortly, I need to apologise for how brutal I was. I told her we'd come to her, and not the other way around, so while I'm doing that, I figure you guys can chip in stuff of what to say to her when I do, and whatnot.
There's also the issue of rsor at large. I'm pretty sure most rsor-ites don't need to know at this point in time, or there's going to be more upheaval than we need; look at what the Time Spiral has caused- Hanston had to post a PSA about that already. Some people (see: Iskander) would have carved up Erika's face, and you can bet that would get anti-rsor sniffing at her heels. Will they know eventually? Quite possible. But now may not be the most tactful time.
- Jehanne
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Post by Winifred Ellen Young on Nov 17, 2011 18:05:10 GMT -7
 winnieFRED
Erica? Really? She’s a good friend of mine. This isn’t good, NO ONE should know. Judging by what you said it wasn’t so much a lapse in security so much as little tid bits lined up for her to find. Like bread crumbs! I know her decently well and I am sure she will keep her mouth shut.
Let’s keep her as in the dark as possible as to who we all are of course. She knows some but she doesn’t need to know everyone. I’ll try to make more time to hang out with her more often so I can keep a closer eye on her ties and figure out who she spends most of her time with. That way we can keep an eye on them as well, just in case, but I am sure that there are a lot worse normals who could find out.
I can also start teaching her some of the code we use and hopefully start getting her to be less frank and forthright with the information. She’s already one of my closer friends, normal or not. I know we don’t want to give her too much more information than she already has, but I think scaring her isn’t the best way to handle this so make sure you make it clear you feel you over-reacted…even though you didn’t. Try to make nice like you plan to…I would also try a less threatening approach. Explain to her why this can’t be given to the public and make sure she understands the importance of it and what telling could mean. I think that should be more than enough to guarantee her silence.
As for telling the members in RSOR, I strongly advise against keeping it from them. I am not saying tell them outright. But I think we need to be gradual. At the very least, those she is aware of should be alerted…Can anyone think of a way to ease this in. We don’t want panic but hiding it isn’t going to do any good. If anyone finds out from the wrong source it could become much worse than if we tell everyone ourselves…
I am not saying tell them right now…but they need to be told. We should pick a more strategic time if this is what everyone agrees to do. If not, I understand, but I feel that we may be taking the risk of a bigger mess if anyone else finds out about Erica’s knowledge before we are ready to say anything.
Given the time to think about it I may be able to come up with an easier way to ease them in. But let me think on it and we can wait to hear from everyone else first.
~ Earhart
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Post by Cornelius Dennis Cox on Nov 17, 2011 18:50:59 GMT -7
 Whatever we decide on, we need to make sure that we think it through. Obviously, this isn't a best case scenario in the first place. I agree with Fred that it could be worse, though - It could be a member of Anti-RSOR. As Alison hasn't said anything about Erika being a member of Anti-RSOR (am I correct, Isa?), we don't have to worry about the entire school finding out about this before sunset. I agree with Isabella that RSOR security is of utmost importance here, and while Isa's methods may have seemed a bit extreme, such actions needed to be taken in order to convey to Erika that we mean business. This isn't something we can dilly-dally around. This is a compromise in our security! As for telling members? It is VERY important that we focus on the pros and cons of all options before we go forth with a solution. We may lose a lot of trust in our members if such a breach is discovered, but we'd lose more trust in them if it happens to be discovered through a method not conveyed by us. |
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Post by Isabella Jillian Avadore on Nov 17, 2011 18:51:38 GMT -7
Yeah, I agree with you completely here. I'm definitely going to explain to her why it needs to be kept secret, and explain my own "over-reaction" (though in some ways I think I did over-react, after all, I know Erika too, and she's no Tamara)
As for how they need to be told, I'm thinking we should do so at a meeting so everyone that comes knows at once. I think we could tell those who were figured out, they should be quiet on this, but I think we might want to amass them as a group and tell them at once, rather than we branch off and play telephone tag or tell slightly different stories. Plus, we can add to what each of us has to say, rather than hunt them down one by one, or mob after them, which would be...interesting, but easier to round everyone up.
As for everyone else, I'd again suggest one evening, but we need a more strategic time. Plus, if we can hold off (can being the operative term - if she is captain obvious too much we can't wait, as that would be a worse situation), we can get more info and get her better trained in hiding what she knows, as well as more details into how she followed this trail - so we can make notes how to hide it better for rsor later on.
If you could give her some code training, that would be good. I'll see if I can cover a few basics when I see her, but I'll concern myself more with "this is why this is", unless anyone has any objections/additions?
-Jehanne
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Post by Skylar Thomas Ingot on Nov 20, 2011 20:40:09 GMT -7
 Well, this is rather complicated.
We really need to work on this security issue that keeps popping up, and this just proves that. We need to make sure that new members know the code right away and don't just drop hints out of the blue that anyone could follow. Honestly, unless certain members have good reason to be doing past life things in their room I don't think they should really be allowed unless they make sure their door is locked and all their roommates are reincarnates. Of course we are not going to be able to control a bunch of teenagers obviously, but we definitely need to make some rules clear.
Telling the people who she knows about should definitely be done carefully. I'm not sure all of them will take it with good grace. Some may not care of course, but it is entirely possible a freak out will happen. So I think the ones that are known should be told individually and that everyone should be aware that Erika knows during a meeting. There is the issue though that some people are hardly ever at meetings so them we might have to track down separately. Either way we have our work cut out for us.
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